Wednesday, May 14, 2008

it's a pleasant surprise to see rationality displayed on TV


Blogger Melanie said...

Well, other than comparing apples to oranges in a few places he starts off fairly rational. I think he goes off the deep end a little towards the end. But the part where he says that we each see the from our own viewpoint is quite true.

8:28 AM

Anonymous emily said...

rational? mostly. correct? slightly less than mostly.

6:28 PM

Blogger David said...

i dont understand where the problems arise in this small monologue. is he not correct? and when did he go off the deep end? when is he comparing apples and oranges?

4:46 AM

Blogger Melanie said...

I will have to go back and rewatch to comment, but I believe the comparison between someone accepting a political endorsement from someone is far different that sitting under someone's teachings for 20 years. In that sense, I don't think the comparisons are quite the same. A like comparison would be Obama accepting an endorsement, and then McCain accepting a similar endorsement.

There were other things, but I'll have to go back and rewatch preferably when I didn't just take a muscle relaxer.

Just to let you know a little of my frame of reference, I don't like any of the candidates particularly.

I do think he also made valid points. I'll try to write something up more specific.

5:18 PM

Blogger David said...

I think what he is pointing out is the double standard...and that is what is crazy. it's not so much about barack obama and John Mccain, it's about the fact that there has been many controversial things said by white preachers/political figures in the past before Reverand Wright, and it did not generate this type of reaction at all. the media's involvement in the whole thing is pretty shameful, but that comes as no surprise.

8:42 AM

Blogger Melanie said...

Actually, I think quite a few white "preachers" have gotten themselves in major trouble politically and otherwise with quite a bit of publicity. Sometimes it hurts a candidates credibility to be affiliated with them, , sometimes not. There are double standards on a lot of things, though. I think a lot of the hoopla surrounding the Rev. have more to do with the closeness and longevity of his connection to Obama more than race. And if the truth be told, the media loves someone outspoken and flambouyant. If you want to see examples of a double standard on the other side, just look at the criticism Robertson and Falwell got for involving the church and compare that with the lack of flack for Jackson raising money directly from churches. The religious right gets pilloried. The religious left gets pretty much downplayed. I think this probably hurts both sides. It hurts the "left" because they are somewhat being ignored, and the "right" because they are treated as somehow crossing lines they shouldn't be (whether or not that is the case.) The truth is quite often in between. I have seen racism, but usually the real racism isn't where the media says it is strangely enough. I am old enough to remember someone not wanting to sell the house across the street from us to a black family. My mom was livid, as she should have been. That was the real thing. I'm sure it still happens, though probably a lot more subtley. Anyway, the hoopla with Wright will die down, just as the hoopla with Pat and some of his comments will. Several things the monologue touches on that I pretty much agree with:
1. We see things through the veil of our own experiences;
2. The media feeding frenzy is pretty accurately described
3. He almost touches on but misses context and it's importance. I kinda wish he would have addressed that a little more.

O.K. rant over. LOL Hope we're still friends. LOL

11:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't think his arguments about the black preachers having a liberty to speak hate or frustration from the pulpit is correct. I think that it is a little bit of a double standard and that a lot of the 'frustration' that he was venting was directed in tearing down Obama, who is in fact a black man. In a sermon of his, he called Obama trash, and says that he was born trash. Also, from a theological point of view, i think it is a drastic misrepresentation of the Christian church for Rev. Wright to claim himself to be a bearer of the Word of God, and speak with such hatred to any people group, white, black, american, whatever! Also, i saw a video on youtube from this ATLAH church, i don't know if you've seen it, but i think the pastor in this video makes a very good point that the black nation has been crippling themselves by taking on this subculture of 'gangster culture' and crime and such. The pastor makes a plea to the black community to stand up for their rights as citizens, to get off the streets, out of the hood, and to treat themselves with respect. However, so as not to ENTIRELY be the devil's advocate, i do agree with his point that we all see the world from our own viewpoint. So check out the ATLAH video regarding Rev. Wright.... I think that the issue lies deeper than 'who's right and who's wrong' but are people standing up for what the affiliate themselves with. Is Wright standing up for what is best for the black community or is he 'going to be right and that's that!'

6:04 PM


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